Nvidia's homegrown memory design is almost standardized and ready for everyone to use — JEDEC says SOCAMM2 compact DRAM module for AI servers boasts higher speeds and broader compatibility

Micron SOCAMM module
(Image credit: Micron)

SOCAMM2 is on track to become the definitive version of the SOCAMM standard very soon. JEDEC has announced that SOCAMM2's design is nearing completion and will take advantage of the same LPDDR5X memory type as its predecessor. Two upgrades will be added to SOCAMM2: an SPD profile (what most might refer to as a "JEDEC profile") and improved LPDDR5X transfer rates of up to 9600 MT/s.

The new memory type will be incorporated into next-gen AI servers, says JEDEC. Although no official announcements have been made, Nvidia seems likely to take another shot at introducing SOCAMM2 alongside its Vera CPUs on its next-generation Rubin platform. Servers integrating the first SOCAMM memory modules were reportedly abandoned by Nvidia due to technical difficulties.

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  • edzieba
    SOCAMM is a more compact version of traditional DRAM DIMMs that purports to be more power-efficient.
    And more importantly, it achieves that lower power at higher bandwidths, as it avoids all the signal integrity issues of DIMM slots and gets close to the performance of DRAM dies directly soldered to the host PCB.
    The improvement in packaging volume over right-angle SODIMM slots is a minor factor at most.
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  • bit_user
    edzieba said:
    The improvement in packaging volume over right-angle SODIMM slots is a minor factor at most.
    What I think SOCAMM/2 does right that spoiled the prior CAMM designs is the fact that it's single-sided. Heat is becoming a significant issue for DDR5 scaling, hence why I think it was a bad decision for those other designs to put DRAM chips on the underside, where they'd be sandwiched against the motherboard.
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  • Elrabin
    edzieba said:
    And more importantly, it achieves that lower power at higher bandwidths, as it avoids all the signal integrity issues of DIMM slots and gets close to the performance of DRAM dies directly soldered to the host PCB.
    The improvement in packaging volume over right-angle SODIMM slots is a minor factor at most.
    It's less about the volume gain vs traditional RDIMMs and more the gains in reduction in Z-height.

    The SOCAMM/2s being "flat" to the board means you have more overhead clearance for ever larger heatsinks/coldplates for air/liquid cooling. You want the memory as physically close to the socket as possible, but not encroach upon the cooling method. This achieves both.

    With Nvidia scaling to 4400 watts per GPU in only a few years, they're trying to maximize cooling any way they can. From larger coldplates to microchannel etching.
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  • thestryker
    bit_user said:
    What I think SOCAMM/2 does right that spoiled the prior CAMM designs is the fact that it's single-sided. Heat is becoming a significant issue for DDR5 scaling, hence why I think it was a bad decision for those other designs to put DRAM chips on the underside, where they'd be sandwiched against the motherboard.
    Every LPDDR CAMM module is single sided. This design is literally just to do away with the tab which makes LPCAMM modules wider.
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  • thestryker
    edzieba said:
    And more importantly, it achieves that lower power at higher bandwidths, as it avoids all the signal integrity issues of DIMM slots and gets close to the performance of DRAM dies directly soldered to the host PCB.
    You cannot compare LPDDR to DDR like you're doing here. They're using LPDDR due to density of both capacity and bandwidth. I'm actually a little surprised they moved away from using soldered memory, but I imagine this allows for simpler speed and capacity differentiation (it may also help with board manufacture over time).
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  • bit_user
    thestryker said:
    Every LPDDR CAMM module is single sided. This design is literally just to do away with the tab which makes LPCAMM modules wider.
    Okay, you're right. But, it took me like a dozen tries to find an article that showed the bottom side. It's like memory makers don't want to show us that side, and every tech article just reused the images they provided.

    Here's one that shows a diagram of a LPCAMM's bottom side:
    https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/09/29/samsung-lpcamm-integrates-lpddr-ram-on-removable-modules/
    I did find a couple that showed the bottom of non-LP CAMMs, and those definitely have chips on the bottom side.
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  • bit_user
    thestryker said:
    I'm actually a little surprised they moved away from using soldered memory, but I imagine this allows for simpler speed and capacity differentiation (it may also help with board manufacture over time).
    Also, memory degrades with use. Having field-replaceable memory could be a win for reducing ownership costs, since it saves you having to replace the entire module (which includes the processor die).
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  • thestryker
    bit_user said:
    Okay, you're right. But, it took me like a dozen tries to find an article that showed the bottom side. It's like memory makers don't want to show us that side, and every tech article just reused the images they provided.
    Yeah I couldn't find pictures of the bottom either which was one of the reasons I registered at JEDEC so I could download the specs.
    bit_user said:
    I did find a couple that showed the bottom of non-LP CAMMs, and those definitely have chips on the bottom side.
    Yeah those it depends on the type a very common one I've seen is 12 chips on top 4 on the bottom. I still think 16 on top is the likely consumer one should that day arrive even though that means a 64GB limit.
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